The Investment In The Cemetery Is All &Nbsp; The Civil Affairs Bureau Says There Is No Investment In The Cemetery.

April 5th is

Low price online sale no "pick up"

"Fengshui cemetery pfer", "low price pfer, do not miss the opportunity"......

In some of the most popular classified information portals, the information about the pfer of graveyards is not uncommon.

And on some online shopping platforms such as Taobao, you can also find the online shop of the cemetery dealer and buy the cemetery online. In the future, it may really become the last online shopping of the "online shopping generation".

In these online advertisements, the description of "surrounded by mountains and waters", "greening area exceeding 40%" and "feng shui master's high affirmation" can not help but remind people of some crazy graveyard salesmen in some films.

2000 million to buy today's guaranteed sales

Reporters in Ganji network, 58 city network to see, private pfer of cemetery information, many of them were released at the end of last year to a certain period of time this year.

Apart from individual high prices, the reporters found that most of the pferable sellers said they were selling at the original price or even discounted.

And some of those who have more graveyards in their hands have already lowered the bottom line, rather than making a profit without paying for the goods.

Mr. Lee, a seller of Dongfeng East Road, complained to reporters that his mother bought more than a dozen cemetery in Zengcheng Wan An garden in 2000 with the attitude of investment. He still has eight or nine sets of hands.

"I also commissioned Wan An Yuan to sell, but they are still developing new cemetery in their garden. I am worried about not selling it." Mr. Li said, but he thought of the way of sending information on the Internet, hoping that the buyer would see the information smoothly after shipment.

As for the price, he said that because the price of a cemetery was bought at about 10000 yuan, the selling price is now about 10000 yuan.

Also selling the graveyard on the Internet with a guaranteed cost is Miss Zhang, who told reporters that she bought the cemetery in Zengcheng around 2002 and is now preparing to pfer the original price.

"At that time, a lot of people bought lots of graveyards, and now they want to sell them," she said. It has been nearly 10 years since the purchase of the tomb, and I regret it very much.

So now she has not considered the problem of earning no money.

In contrast, Mr. Cheng, who was preparing to sell the cemetery at 20 percent off of the original price, became more anxious. "It's been a long time since somebody bought it."

Cemetery seller Lee told reporters that the main reason is that the government is very strict with the qualifications of the graveyard buyers, and only those who are really used for burial become buyers. The probability of being patronized is very small. Now, apart from making friends pay attention to the buyers who need them, they can only send messages on the Internet.

Take a visitor to the tomb and have a shuttle bus.

However, there are also some sellers who do not have such a heavy load. The number of burial sites on hand is not large.

Miss Chen, who lives in Yuexiu District, says she has two graveyards on her hands for sale. "We need cash turnover now, so the price is lower than the market price."

Reporters learned that the two cemetery she sold for different locations, the price is 36000 yuan, 18000 yuan, although some similar graveyard sellers price is lower, than the cemetery of the same cemetery new low price, but slightly higher than their original purchase price.

Some other cemetery sellers also expressed discounts, but the discount standard was "market price".

The seller, Mr. Liu, said he had four cemetery on hand, ready to sell twenty percent off in accordance with the market price.

The so-called market price refers to the price of the newly built cemetery in the cemetery. After twenty percent off, the selling price is about 10000 yuan higher than that of the early buyers.

Although these sellers have slightly raised their selling price, many of them are in good service, which means they can pick up cars and send them to the field to see the grave.

However, they generally say that although some people have called by telephone after sending information on the Internet, most of them are not buyers who meet the terms of purchase.

It is difficult to buy grave tombs without evidence.

Recently, media reports reported that there were grave cemetery in Guangzhou. Some people sold the price of the cemetery 3 times on the Internet, and intermediaries were involved in the sale of the cemetery.

However, a reporter survey found that in fact, most of those sold double the price of the cemetery were "big flickers". They generally emphasized the investment value of the cemetery for buyers, and indicated that they could buy without proof of death certificate.

The reporter learned from the relevant departments that, in line with the increasingly sophisticated funeral and funeral management system, buyer's documents must be complete in the sale of cemeteries, and it is difficult for investors and intermediaries to intervene in the cemetery.

"Geomantic treasure (tomb) land, feng shui master has been verified, can be invested, benefit greatly!"

It is a good opportunity to have a comprehensive certificate and a long-term vision.

Similar online "investment grave" ads are still visible.

Reporter survey found that, in addition to some low-priced sale and slightly increase the price of the cemetery, there are many early cemetery buyers now raise the price several times, in the name of investment to sell the graveyard.

Moreover, they generally emphasize that it is not necessary to require relevant information such as death certificates. If they want to buy them, they can even help with all kinds of formalities.

A seller in the advertisement said he could take the cemetery as an investment. He had a cemetery about 3 square meters on hand, which was in the Xianghe permanent cemetery in Panyu District.

He did not want to talk about the sale price on the phone, saying that he could talk in detail when he met. He had always emphasized that he sold the cemetery "Fengshui first-class", and even had "feng shui master" on-site verification.

He said that as an investment, the cemetery investment is small and the income is high. "As long as you have the intention to buy, we can help with the formalities."

Huadu Shiling 1 square meters cemetery priced at 160 thousand

Large paction risk

Another Mr. Yan, who sells the tomb of Xiang an permanent cemetery in Shilin Town, Huadu, says that the cemetery he sells is about 1.39 square meters, with a price of 160 thousand yuan.

When reporters questioned why the price of the cemetery was so high, he said that the main reason is that Fengshui is better here, and it is also known as "Furong mountain", known as "the first Feng Shui place in south of the Five Ridges", and the traffic near the expressway is more convenient.

He said that the pfer procedures for buying cemeteries can be arranged and no proof of death certificates can be found.

And some sellers who sell the cemetery at low prices have been persuaded. Now do not believe those sellers who flicker that they can buy cemeteries for investment. "We are a large number of people who are getting the money to be shipped," said Mr. Li, a seller of the cemetery.

Moreover, they believe that with the gradual improvement of the funeral system, the possibility of investing in the cemetery is becoming less and less. Although some graveyard sellers claim to be able to get through all the formalities, these are, after all, pactions under the desktop. The risk is very great.

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Graveyard: direct purchase is more affordable.

Ms. Chen, a staff member of a cemetery in Zengcheng, said that in the current cemetery sale, the cemetery managers should be responsible for checking whether the sellers' warrants are real and effective, and whether the buyers have relevant certificates before they go through the relevant formalities for the two sides.

It is fair to say that without relevant proof, buyers will not be able to trade smoothly.

As for the price of cemetery sale, as a cemetery management, they usually do not interfere with them, as long as they are willing to do so.

"But the price of the seller is so high that buyers do not have to buy it at all," she said. In general, buying graveyards directly from the cemetery is actually a bit more beneficial.

Online 70% is selling Zengcheng cemetery.

Reporters on several websites saw that more than 70% of the sellers who pferred the cemetery in Guangzhou were selling the cemetery of "Zengcheng Zheng Guo Wan An Yuan".

A graveyard seller revealed to reporters that in 2000 about ~2002, many people in Guangzhou followed suit to buy a cemetery in this cemetery.

"At that time, they said they could invest in the cemetery, which is better than the real estate income," the cemetery seller hit a sum of money for that purpose.

The staff of Zengcheng Wan An garden also confirmed the buyers of these early cemetery. "Buyers bought the right to buy and sell tombs before 2003. Now buyers are buying the right to buy and sell."

Miss Chen, customer service department of Wan An garden, revealed that before 2003, the cemetery sold a cemetery worth about 80 million yuan to buy and sell. According to her estimate, about 1/3 was bought by individuals, and about 2/3 was "investment nature".

"Tomb slave" holding tens of millions of cemeteries.

Later, the government standardized the funeral and funeral management system. Buyers must issue certificates such as death certificates and cremation certificates to buy them, and new buyers can not resell them after buying. Some remote location cemetery, early investment buyers can not digest their graveyards.

Now, the customer service department of Wan An garden is specially designed to help these early guests solve historical problems. Usually they will sign a trust agreement, which is sold by the cemetery to the graveyard purchased by the early guests. The selling price is also sold according to the price approved by the price department of the cemetery.

It is understood that there are three types of cemetery ranging from square meters to three square meters in Zengcheng Wan An garden, and the purchase price also ranges from 10000 to 30000 yuan.

At present, the selling price of the cemetery is also within the price range.

However, Miss Chen of the cemetery said that if the owner of the cemetery talks about the price of buying furniture, the cemetery party will not interfere with their paction price when signing the pfer agreement to the cemetery.

Up to now, the cemetery customer service department has helped the early batch of guests to digest about 40000000 of the graveyard by entrusting the agreement. There are still a large number of cemetery graves in the hands of a large number of graveyards, with a total value of more than 10 million yuan.

No investment in the cemetery of the Civil Affairs Bureau

In fact, the reporter learned that although some of the people who pfer the cemetery on the Internet now have high prices, they also claim that the burial grounds still have investment functions and do not need relevant purchase proof materials.

However, the relevant officials of the Guangzhou Civil Affairs Bureau made it clear that Guangzhou's cemetery sale now requires strict requirements for the qualifications of the buyers, and the cemetery has no possibility of investment.

You must have death certificate and cremation certificate to buy tomb.

"No one can buy it now."

Mei Xiangyang, deputy director of the Guangzhou Municipal Civil Affairs Bureau, told reporters.

Online and private businesses offering private tombs are actually a "legacy of history".

Around 2001, when the funeral system had not yet been perfected, some buyers in Guangzhou bought a number of investment cemeteries, and now they are gradually being put on sale in the market.

However, due to the consumption of land in the cemetery in recent years, and the cemetery has also done some repurchase work, these early tombs have been digested almost.

He said that there is no possibility of investing in the cemetery, so it must be cheating on the Internet to invest in the banner.

Now, in the trade of the cemetery, the seller and the buyer must come to the three side of the cemetery at the same time, and the cemetery management must check the death certificate and cremation certificate of the buyer to permit the two parties to trade.

For some cemeteries, during the Qingming Festival, the price of more than one hundred and twenty thousand dollars was sold. He said that in fact, buying directly from the cemetery party would not have to worry about such a situation. "Generally, the price of the cemetery in the city will be more expensive now, around seventy thousand or eighty thousand, and only twenty thousand or thirty thousand yuan in Zengcheng or Huadu."

Rarely seen real estate agents acting as cemeteries.

Recently, media exposure revealed that real estate agents also intervened in the cemetery agency. A reporter survey found that most real estate agents would not engage in this business.

In the face of the reporter's consultation, the staff of the real estate agency, such as the whole house, Zhongyuan, Yufeng and so on, feel very stunned. "How can we not do this business?"

An intermediary Mr. Xian said that he and his colleagues never touched the business, not only because of the company's prohibition, but also that "acting cemetery will affect our reputation and customers will know that there will be psychological barriers."

A real estate agency privately told reporters that the platform of the cemetery agency is actually relatively small, and the restrictions are relatively large.

"Buyers of cemetery may not be able to connect with the buyers' resources on hand," he said. The main reason is that the cemetery has no investment. Most buyers are really in need, and real estate intermediaries have no targeted customers.

However, he said that some intermediaries could not help familiar customers to do this kind of business. "They may provide contracts to act as intermediaries and witnesses."

But reporters understand that, if it is a private cemetery sale, the real estate intermediary's testimony and the contract provided is not legally valid.

It is understood that the real estate intermediary companies to apply for the scope of industrial and commercial administrative licensing, basically does not involve a cemetery, Guangzhou City Administration for Industry and commerce registration office staff told reporters that the real estate intermediary is not a proxy for the cemetery business, but must declare, otherwise it is beyond the scope of business license, must be investigated.

However, reporters in a number of online graveyard sellers understand that there are indeed a lot of graveyard sellers have received intermediary telephone.

"Some intermediaries volunteered to call and say they could help sell," said Mr. Liu, a cemetery seller. He had been greeted by four or five intermediaries, all of whom called to learn about the situation and price of the cemetery, and later said that if there was a suitable buyer, he would contact him, but later there was no real agent to contact him.

Attorney: agent no right to buy, grave offense

In addition, lawyer Huang of Guangzhou Zhengda law firm also said that even if it was to be an agent, it must be a cemetery owned by the agent to buy or sell rights, otherwise it would be illegal. "According to the present Regulations on funeral and interment management, the cemetery is not allowed to be bought and sold freely, and it only has the right to use after buying.

Only a number of cemeteries in the early years have the right to legitimate pactions.