Mao Yushi: Advocating Elite Governing &Nbsp, But The Elite Must Represent Grass Roots.
The most lacking in China is gentleman education, or gentleman education, from primary school to university.
What is human quality? Respect for people, not culture, or different classes.
Without compassion between people, society will become callous.
Speak for the rich, work for the poor; there are too few people to speak for the rich, and hatred for the rich is not good for everyone.
Our tax system is extremely unreasonable, the tax is too high, and there are many ways to avoid tax for the high income group.
One
Those who curse me are pathetic.
Guo Yukuan: it is seen on the Internet that the mental and physical pressure of the Chinese elite group is too great, and the average life expectancy is obviously lower than the life expectancy of the country.
How do you deal with the relationship between work and body? Everyone is impressed with your health and working condition.
Mao Yushi
I don't have any secret. It's very simple to tell you. It depends on whether you can do it or not. It is a good attitude and meets with everything.
Things can be done as far as possible.
Guo Yukuan: Mao Lao, I see some people on the Internet who do not ask indiscriminate and curse people with such horrible remarks. I am really sad. Have you seen them?
Mao Yushi: I have seen it.
Some people on the Internet have seriously considered my point of view. I think it is very good. I always reply as seriously as possible.
But some people do not say anything. They curse me.
I think these people are pathetic, they are not well educated, and they are so unhappy with others that they should be unhappy themselves.
Guo Yukuan: I'm all angry about it. Are you really angry?
Mao Yushi: he is old enough to see.
Just read the story of Shangguan Yunzhu. Such a good person killed the Red Guard young man. What hatred did they have between them? They were all incited, and again, they were not well educated from childhood.
Now, you can curse me for a few words, and you can't run to my house to beat me. When the "Cultural Revolution", you can run to your house and shave your head, and take away valuable things from your home. You dare not say a word.
Now I see that those uneducated words and deeds are not angry at all, but there are some concerns. The quality of China is a big problem now.
It was all during the cultural revolution, but it has not yet recovered.
It was not like this before. Especially the people of Beijing were polite, courteous and respectful.
Someone asked me to write for the past 60 years. I said that 60 years ago, it was basically an old Chinese tradition. After 30 years, it was a class struggle, and another 30 years was money making.
I moved to Beijing in 1950 and moved from Guangzhou.
My father was a very decent person. His reputation was very good. When Guangzhou was liberated, the central government pferred him to the Ministry of railways.
He went to the Ministry of Railways as deputy director of the locomotive Bureau, and the locomotive bureau is the most important department of the Ministry of railways.
At that time, I graduated from Shanghai Jiaotong University and came to Beijing in summer vacation. This is my first time to Beijing.
At that time, I really liked Beijing, and Beijing people were very polite, more polite than southerners.
I think there is a relationship between Manchu and Han people. The Qing government later respected the Han people in their posture, mainly because they were afraid of Han people's rebellion.
We read the novels of Ming Dynasty, when the relationship between man and man was not like this.
Otherwise, how can China be called a ceremonies? Unfortunately, the "Cultural Revolution" propagated the brutal, compassionate, mutual hatred and simple culture, which destroyed all the people.
Two
What does human quality mean?
Guo Yukuan: when did you get angry?
Mao Yushi: People's mentality is indeed related to age.
When I was young, I made a lot of mistakes, and now I will not do it again; but I see others are still committing, for example, angry.
When I was young, every time I made a mistake in the fire, I would blush now.
During the war of resistance, our family fled from Guiyang to Chongqing and lived in Mao Yisheng's house.
He lives in two places in Chongqing. We live in his empty place. There are usually no one, only two nannies look at the house.
The two nannies are very lazy.
We walked all over gray, especially embarrassed, needing washing and cooking.
When the babysitter was impatient, I lost my temper and drove them away.
I was sixteen or seven years old.
There are several times like this.
It's a shame to talk about it now!
I increasingly feel the importance of gentleman education in England.
There are different gentlemen in China. There are differences between gentlemen and gentlemen. But in general, there is something like that. What is most lacking in China is gentleman education, or gentleman education, from primary school to university.
Guo Yukuan: what do you call gentlemen education?
Mao Yushi: the most basic characteristic of gentleman education is respect for others. The most typical example is Titanic.
This thing impressed me so much that it was not easy for a man in first class to go on board without a boat. This is not easy. There are several famous millionaires who drowned.
In these places, the British are proud of their traditions.
It turned out that there was a similar tradition in China, and the "Cultural Revolution" was completely destroyed.
In the name of unselfishness, it is the selfishness of human nature.
There are also times when Chinese people sacrifice themselves, when they are fighting, that is a hero, but not a gentleman.
What is human quality? I feel that I respect people at ordinary times.
Do not care about the cultural level, or different classes, to see others as they are, this is respect for people, China's lack of such people.
China is now talking about privileges.
For example, when two people quarrel, one says, "what's so great about you?" you see, it's not what makes sense, but who is more important than who is. It's not that you overwhelm me, that is, I overwhelm you, not respect and equality.
Without compassion between people, society will become ruthless.
Three
I am more aware than many people.
Guo Yukuan: have you ever been very desperate when you came from that era?
Mao Yushi: basically not, except for one time, I almost sent me to the Northeast labor reform. If I went to eight achievements, I would die there.
Fortunately, there are good people who protect me, and later I have lost my name. I don't know who I am now. I always want to thank him.
Guo Yukuan: you were not disappointed when you were insulted and hit?
Mao Yushi: of course, it was also painful.
When I was beaten to the right, I was very upset, angry and depressed, so I listened to music.
I like listening to Beethoven, expressing anger, and Tchaikovsky's symphony of sorrow.
I admit that "oppose the party and oppose socialism" and others dare not contact me.
Being discriminated against and being scolded, a lot of them were beaten and shaved, and my wife shaved her head. During the "Cultural Revolution", my child's primary school was also discriminated against.
Similar to the "Cultural Revolution", there are many different themes in Chinese history.
At that time, the most sad thing was that all the family members were suffering.
Guo Yukuan: what do you mean by reason?
Mao Yushi: you can see clearly.
At that time, I was a little young and too fond of socialism. It was to say a few words for the good of the country.
I could not conceive of it. I defended myself. Later I saw it, and I did not explain it.
OK, you say I am, I am, I confess.
I wanted to explain again, and they beat me to death.
I admit, they have achieved their goals: you see, Mao Yushi has admitted that he is a counter revolutionary.
The so-called reason is that I know that the brutality of society at that time, a person to resist it useless.
From 1951 to 1952, I suppressed the counter revolution. At that time, I was in Qigihar to investigate my history. I was only 22 years old. What was the history? Two of us from Shanghai were put off as a secret agent for a while.
Catch and play, are ordinary people.
Working with me, there was a family name Zhang. His father was shot.
After the anti rightist, I became more and more aware, and I was much more aware than many people.
Many people died in the three rounds of Anti Japanese war. They said that the medical devices sent to the DPRK were fake and shoddy. This was also deliberately created. They exaggerated the matter and overthrew the capitalists.
I checked our accounting and material director at the locomotive depot at that time, but I didn't quite understand it at that time.
At that time, I saw this kind of problem.
Then we turn right, then turn right.
Three years of famine will not happen without anti rightists.
Four
Such an abnormal society can not grow up.
Guo Yukuan: Why were you so young when you were so young?
Mao Yushi: maybe I prefer to think about family education.
Our family is honest.
My father is a deputy ministerial cadre, not vice minister, but vice ministerial level treatment.
My father was a prudent person, so he was fine. The Cultural Revolution did not suffer any blow. He put up a large character poster. After that, he was optimistic. Labor was labor. He liked labour very much. Later, he built a railway and needed to plate it.
My parents and two families were both prominent families. My three uncle was the dean of the school of engineering of Centre College. Later, he was a professor of Nan Gong, Chen Zhang, an electrical engineering department.
My great uncle is a Kuomintang.
I was influenced by Mao's family.
The people of Mao's family are more honest.
Mao Yisheng is a very kind person. He earned a lot of money in his life, and he didn't enjoy it at all. He gave it to others.
He was a politician and later became Vice Chairman of the CPPCC.
He did not learn politics, not from politics, but from his own experience.
He was very smart. He saw the situation and did not stir up trouble or speak in disorder.
After liberation, he struggled for 30 years and did not fight to his head.
He did not offend anyone in the Research Institute, and respected everyone. So no one made him whole, and the people in the room protected him very much.
Mao Zedong interviewed several times, probably joking, we all surnamed Mao, he had a lot of light.
At the age of more than 20, many of my friends wanted to commit suicide. I didn't, because I thought such an abnormal society could not last.
I am younger than you. I can always see a better day in China.
To this day, we must be grateful.
This generation of young people live in a peaceful and easy life environment, and do not feel that it is difficult to live. It seems that people should live naturally, and death is very remote.
Actually, it's not easy. We have the present life. We should cherish it and make our society better.
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Five
To repay the resentment directly, the Analects contains great wisdom.
Guo Yukuan: what books have a greater impact on you during your growth?
Mao Yushi: in terms of concept, the Analects of Confucius has great influence on me, and it is very good to talk about a lot of things that people do.
Guo Yukuan: which one do you think is the most intelligent?
Mao Yushi: Confucius said that we should repay the resentment directly, which contains great wisdom. It is not easy to do this.
Guo Yukuan: what did you gain from your experience in the past?
Mao Yushi: the most important thing is to respect others, to think more about others, especially not to suspect other people's motives. It's easy to say, but 80% of them can't do it.
People's motives are good or bad. If they regard bad motives as a good motive, they may be pformed.
I did not see this as a good motive for me. How should I deal with him? One way is to repay tit for tat, and the other way is to assume that he is a good motive and help me, so I will correct it.
This result is much better than that.
I do not have any vigilance against people, so they all say that I am easily deceived and used.
I think it's good for him to take advantage of it.
Others say it will hurt your reputation. If it hurts too much, of course I have to speak, so long as it does not hurt too much and is good for others, let him take advantage of it.
Confucius talked about dealing with bad guys in a moral way, but not with tit for tat.
In fact, Obama's idea is the same as mine, which is Confucius's "direct return of resentment".
To deal with terrorism is to impose sanctions on the one hand, but also to think about why he wants to engage in terror. Is it my fault? I will not change the pressure of light, he will not work, and terrorism will not end.
If you do not review it yourself, you will not be able to solve it by force alone.
A soft hearted politician is more suitable to be a politician.
I am dealing with problems in this way.
Six
Speak for the rich, and work for the poor.
Guo Yukuan: but in recent years, there are so many people who criticize you. Have you considered your own way of expressing yourself?
Mao Yushi: you have something to say. I am also thinking about it.
However, most of the people who support me are very much. Every time I go out to lecture, they are all very touched. Everyone is very welcome, but there are not many people who post posts on the Internet.
In my observation, no one scolded me in the past, presumably from my advocacy of "speaking for the rich and working for the poor".
To be honest, I still feel right now.
Some people may misunderstand, do not they need to speak for the poor? I certainly do not mean that. I am also helping poor people in many places.
China needs to speak for the rich at present.
We can't all become rich. We all turn poor.
If we eat a big pot, there will be no vitality in society. We must have rich and poor, though bad, but there are good sides.
There are too few people speaking for the rich now.
Some people have refuted me and said, "Chinese people have never been rich."
In the first 30 years of reform and opening up, it has always been against the rich and tried. What is the state like? I think it is right to pursue fairness. The pursuit of equality will never end. No matter politicians or scholars, efforts are made in this respect, but it is useless to talk about equality.
Before the reform and opening up, we saw who had money to copy. Finally, did the people live a good life? Social wealth was created by creation.
These entrepreneurs should protect them as long as they do not commit crimes.
Progressive taxation is actually a kind of pursuit of fairness. If we encourage them to do charity, who will be enthusiastic about public welfare and give him the best honor, it will be better to pursue fairness in this way. Everyone will benefit from it and the society will suffer less.
Absolute fairness has never been done before. Only slowly, some people call the poor some empty high notes. What do they do in the end? I don't like this. We run Fuping schools, which can really increase income and development opportunities for girls and women who lack skills. I prefer to do such things.
Guo Yukuan: what do you think of luxury consumption? In the global economic recession, the international luxury brand's market performance in China is still rising.
This is also the cause of social injustice.
Mao Yushi: I personally do not advocate luxury life, but I am in favor of the luxury industry.
There are many rich people in China. Their lives are becoming more and more exquisite. It is also a good thing from another angle, especially for the poor, which can provide more job opportunities.
Seven
I advocate Elite Governance, but the elite must represent grass roots.
Guo Yukuan: I think your elite is very strong. This is probably why some people are against it.
Often see some people, especially stressed that he is grass roots, and even very rich, but also to pretend not to comb their face, do not wash, just wash their feet on the field look, such people are often more popular.
Mao Yushi: maybe.
I advocate more.
Elitism
Just look at the UK. This country is not easy. It hasn't been messed up for hundreds of years.
I wrote an article that "society must be governed by elites", like we used to engage in big aircraft and politics, to find a group of poor middle peasants.
I encourage the society to encourage elites, but the elite must represent them.
Grass roots
We must have a sense of responsibility in our interests.
The elite are experts and experts.
But it is just the elite, they do not represent the interests of grass-roots, this problem is great.
The great place of the English is here. Britain has always been governed by elitism and social stability. Since thirteenth Century, there has been a great charter. Indeed, Britain has made great contributions to mankind, whether in the social or natural sciences.
This country is amazing!
Eight
We need a big tax reform.
Guo Yukuan: you have also been criticized for the evaluation of affordable housing.
In my opinion, if there is more logic reasoning ability, most people should agree with you.
Mao Yushi: Yes, logic is really important.
The more we engage in economically affordable housing, the more poor people can not live on the house, which is very unfair. But some of them are vested interests. Some people simply get no benefit, do not understand their own interests, and they are also in the process of booing, which is too boring.
I am doing research on tax reform.
Recently, an article in the political economy magazine of University of Chicago published an article about Russia's personal income tax reform in 2001. This article is too important.
They were four levels earlier, and we were ten grades.
0 tax rate, 12%, 20%, 30%.
0 the tax rate will start at 12%, 50 thousand of the annual income 20%, and 30% of the annual income of 150 thousand, and our highest tax rate is 45%.
This is before the tax reform in Russia. Now they have raised the threshold. There are more people who do not pay taxes. The total pressure of 20% and 30% is 12%. In principle, the tax revenue will be reduced. As a result, the tax revenue has increased by 25%, the second years have increased by 21%, and the third years have increased.
I reckon that our personal tax is only 1.2% of GDP, totally out of proportion. The United States accounts for more than ten percent. Our personal tax accounts for only 7% of the total tax revenue, and the United States accounts for nearly 50% of the total tax.
Our tax system is extremely unreasonable, and the turnover tax is too high to spread to the common people in a disguised form. Tax evasion is a very big problem, and there are many ways for high income earners to evade taxes, and personal income tax has been paid to the working class, that is, the middle class or even the poor.
Therefore, I suggest that our personal tax should be greatly changed, and we should learn from Russia. All of them will come down to a lower level, which will definitely increase national income and strengthen supervision on the other hand.
But when I say this, I am sure someone will scold me for increasing the proportion of personal income tax. But what is really good for the society?
Mao Yushi
One of the most influential economists in China is an important representative of Chinese folk economists.
Born in Nanjing in 1929, his father, Mao Yixin, is a famous railway mechanic expert who returned from overseas study in early China. Uncle Mao Yisheng is a famous bridge expert.
As a result, Mao Yushi was admitted to the Department of mechanical engineering of Shanghai Jiao Tong University in 1946, and mainly engaged in railway locomotives.
In 1958, Mao Yushi was designated as the rightist and sent to rural labor in Shandong.
In 1985, he was an associate research fellow and researcher at the American Institute of Chinese Academy of social sciences. He went to Harvard University to register as a visiting scholar. After he retired in 1993, he joined the other four economists in founding the Institute of economic research.
The representative works include the principle of preferential allocation, the moral outlook of the Chinese, and who prevents us from becoming rich.
Guo Yukuan
Senior media people.
He served as a host of Hunan satellite TV, a senior reporter of "south wind window" and a reporter for CCTV's "news investigation" column.
The best debating member of the 1999 International Collegiate debate.
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